chopped / arpeggio effect?

[nick robinson]

What's the function that creates this effect? It can be heard about 30 seconds in to this track

nickrobinson.bandcamp.com/track/natatory

I think it's about replacing using 6ths, but can't figure out which bit of the manual explains it!

[Stephen Scott]

Jan 5, 2011 16:33:58 GMT nick robinson said:

What's the function that creates this effect? It can be heard about 30 seconds in to this track
nickrobinson.bandcamp.com/track/natatory
I think it's about replacing using 6ths, but can't figure out which bit of the manual explains it!

You could try this;

InsertMode=Replace
Quantise=8th
8ths/cycle=8

Each press of the insert button will then replace 1/8th of the cycle length with whatever sound is appearing at the input. For shorter 'punch-ins', set 8ths/cycle to 16. For glitching effects, use higher values (64) or set Quantise to off.

Or you could try setting InsertMode=Substistute, which gives a similar result, except that you don't hear the loop changing until the next loop round, which gives a less jarring effect.

It's all the manual somewhere.

Your example sounds like a cycle was multiplied at least 4 times AFTER doing the above Quantised Replacing/Substituting, then further Replaces are being carried out on that loop to create some nice variations in the cycles.

[nick robinson]

Jan 5, 2011 17:18:00 GMT Stephen Scott said:

Each press of the insert button will then replace 1/8th of the cycle length with whatever sound is appearing at the input.

when you say press, you mean tap or hold? I'm replacing sure enough, but often with silence. If I tap it, I replace as long as I tap for. or so it seems

boy do I need a lesson. When are you coming by Sheffield way?

[Stephen Scott]

Sounds like Quantise is set to Off.

With those 3 settings shown in my previous post (you can make those changes via the front panel parameters button), it would only need a single brief tap to insert a sub-cycle of sound. Try starting with a loop of about 2 secs duration, then each tap will replace the next sub-cycle with about a quarter of a second (2secs divided by 8) with whatever is coming in the input of the EDP (silence or otherwise!). If you press the button for a bit longer than a brief tap, the replacement will go on until the next sub-cycle. So, for instance, in my example above, if you hold the button for 300 msec, because this is longer than one sub-cycle, the next sub-cycle will also be replaced (ie a total of 2 sub-cycles or half a second). In your sound clip, Bernhard is doing just that - you will notice that one of the notes in the sequence is twice as long as the others (I perceive it as the third note in the sequence, that's how I hear the rhythm anyway, other people may not. This reminds me of the importance of the 'Start Point' (iirc) function, but that's another post for another day).

Let us know how you get on.

[nick robinson]

almost getting it, but I have to tap the insert button *twice* to get it on/off - it doesn't seem to realise it's in 8th mode, but copies my rapid double tap length. I've triple checked my settings match yours above...

this is all I'm managing

www.nickrobinson.info/music/audio/8ths.mp3

[andybutler]

so...what are we supposed to tell from that ;-)
*if* that's the whole of a repeating loop it *might* be two cycles with 8th/cycle set to 8. In which case at first listen it sounds like it's Quantising correctly.
Check your params, and try with a one second loop on Stephen's settings

[nick robinson]

sorted - I'd set my midi pedal to send #9 replacebutton, instead of #3 overdub. this was thinking I was in rplace mode. Jeez

Getting there, sloooowly

so what aural delights should I try next?

[andybutler]

Jan 21, 2011 16:36:55 GMT nick robinson said:

so what aural delights should I try next?

Quantise = CYC
InsertMode=SUS
and maybe RecordMode = SUS

Tap in a very short loop (that's why RecMode=SUS is an option)
Then each press of Insert will add a cycle to the loop.

Then you're in "Tripwire" territory, building up a loop one beat at a time. The result sounds like the 8th Replace thing, but the creation process is more interesting.